Could the Maw be a network of black holes/wormholes connecting distant galaxies and or other universes?

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ron bond 007	Could the Maw be a network of black holes/wormholes connecting distant galaxies and or other universes?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 333 06/20/09 2:11 PM	If the Maw a cluster of black holes was constructed by an ancient ciliviaztion like the Celestials then could it be maybe possibly a series of tunnels to other parts of the galaxy or other more distant galaxies or even other universes? I think it would be cool if Luke or Ben when they encouter the Sith tribe fall into one of these black holes and emerge in a distant galaxy possibly the Vong galaxy or some other alien galaxy. If the Maw is a network of subway tunnels connecting new galaxies and universes or new reaches of space it would open the door for new storylines for future Post-FOTJ books.
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max jaybo		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3108 06/20/09 2:24 PM	No. Please, stop asking. Swear to God, if you immediately follow this post with douchey buzzkillery, I will cut you.
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DarkLord Caedus		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2752 06/20/09 5:38 PM	How would they get to the Vong Galaxy though the Maw if the Vong entered though the OTHER SIDE of the Galaxy? Jaina realized with a cold shudder that Jacen had not failed. He had sacrificed everything-his name, his family, his reputation, his life- to unite the galaxy. And now here Jaina was, watching the birth of a galaxywide league of worlds dedicated to working together in peace. Had Jacen won after all? -Jaina Solo, Invincible
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MrNomAnor		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9784 06/20/09 11:25 PM	I think Ron is suggesting that the Yuuzhan Vong either did not know of these black holes OR their vessels could not traverse them. OR you can only traverse them one way: so like... if you enter from the Known Galaxy that is the only way you CAN go, you can't go back through from an entry point of the YV Galaxy side In the spirit of good faith, I'll take a crack at this, though I don't see this thread lasting long. When we were first introduced to the Maw Cluster in KJA's Jedi Academy trilogy, the speculation both in-universe and out was that this uber collection of black holes could not possibly be a natural occurrance and if by some fluke it was, then it was some infitessimal quirk of odds that would give See-Threepio a droid orgasm. GFFA astrophysicists and whatever else studied them at some point before the JAT, and came up with this theory. And so did we! I mean, seriously, what the hell lelse could this massive collection of black holes be? Even back then, the Maw was speculated to be some sort of ancient alien gateway to parts unknown. Maybe the aliens that put them there are so awesome they zip around in their ships through black holes because hyperspace is so passe. I do think it highly plausible that the Celestials are the architects of the Maw, or if it was not fabricated, then they are the people who "towed" all these black holes and put them there. Maybe the black holes are there to keep something contained? Maybe they do both: they're a prison and a Celestial highway. Given that a predominant theory is that the architects of the Maw and Centerpoint Station are indeed the same species, I entertain the theory that Centerpoint Station was used to "tow" all the black holes to the area of space we now know as the Maw. I suspect that travel is only ONE of the reasons the black holes are there.
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DarkJedi		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4191 06/21/09 9:49 AM	One-way transport is actually the theorized norm for a black hole. You enter the tube from the black hole and exit through a "white hole" on the other side. Travel is certainly plausible, though we know little enough about black holes IRL to properly make an assumption. But transport could be it. ---The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far... H.P Lovecraft. "The Call of Cthulhu" "Thiz one is perhapz too ferocious for a documentary children will watch." -Saba Sebatyne Or should I say...kandy bloo. Small blue, devastatingly witty text at the bottom of one's signature copyright max jaybo 2007 :) Here's to you, buddy
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ron bond 007		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 335 06/21/09 10:25 AM	I think it would be awesome to see the origins of the Maw and Centerpoint Station in future FOTJ books or even Post-FOTJ books. As I said before Luke,Han,Leia,Ben,Jaina and Allana using the Maw as interstellar/intergalactic subways or even interdimensonial subways to other universes would open the door to many adventures and encouter new antagonists in future novels post-FOTJ. I wonder if Luke and Ben will use the Maw to travel to other parts of the galaxy and distant galaxies in Abyss and beyond. Last Edited By: ron bond 007 06/21/09 10:32 AM. Edited 1 time.
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KarVastor		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 49 06/21/09 3:56 PM	Last Edited By: KarVastor 06/22/09 9:07 AM. Edited 1 time.
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ron bond 007		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 338 06/21/09 4:51 PM	Does anybody else want to see the Maw used as a Celestial Superhighway perhaps as shortcuts to the Unknown Regions,distant galaxies and other universes in FOTJ or beyond?
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Iurus		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 5333 06/21/09 4:58 PM	Not really; that seems rather cliche to me, and I'm not a fan of such stretched sci-fi ideas (like that of a "frozen laser"). Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
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DarkJedi		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4193 06/21/09 6:33 PM	I think it would be awesome to see the origins of the Maw and Centerpoint Station in future FOTJ books or even Post-FOTJ books. As I said before Luke,Han,Leia,Ben,Jaina and Allana using the Maw as interstellar/intergalactic subways or even interdimensonial subways to other universes would open the door to many adventures and encouter new antagonists in future novels post-FOTJ. I wonder if Luke and Ben will use the Maw to travel to other parts of the galaxy and distant galaxies in Abyss and beyond. Does anybody else want to see the Maw used as a Celestial Superhighway perhaps as shortcuts to the Unknown Regions,distant galaxies and other universes in FOTJ or beyond? This is exactly what you said in your first post, a subject which I and a few others have replied to. The discussion has started, and is moving on to related topics. Why not try replying to Nom's, Iurus', or my post, which have responses to yours? ---The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far... H.P Lovecraft. "The Call of Cthulhu" "Thiz one is perhapz too ferocious for a documentary children will watch." -Saba Sebatyne Or should I say...kandy bloo. Small blue, devastatingly witty text at the bottom of one's signature copyright max jaybo 2007 :) Here's to you, buddy
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MrNomAnor		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9789 06/21/09 11:30 PM	And on the idea/s of "Will we see the Celestials use the Maw as a freeway?" and also, "Will FOTJ show us the creation of Maw/Centerpoint?" I think that the answer to one is "Possibly" and the answer to the second is, "No, we won't SEE it, but we may find OUT ABOUT IT." The Maw and Centerpoint are some of the biggest mysteries that the EU has ever presented us with, and they go back a long way, both chronologically in universe, and almost back to the creation of the EU in real life. They've somewhat skirted the issues before in some titles, and I'm actually gearing up for full blown revelations in FOTJ. There is literally no other way to take that Kessel plot which single-handedly managed to bring together Centerpoint, the Maw, bogeys, Celestials and weird-ass Force warping. If this does not become a full-blown central plot to FOTJ somewhere down the line, I will cry out that I have been robbed and cheated. Regarding the black holes themselves, the Celestials apparently use/d them for something. Whether or not it is/was travel, I can't say for certain, but it is definitely an option I would be open to. But I kind of hope they aren't, because Iurus doesn't like that. lol. Maybe they were created by accident, like an experiment, or the Celestials were trying to keep something contained, or maybe they had some Ancient Epic War with someone, and they are the result of WMDs. Also, Ron, hey, we'd love to respond to your threads, but it is a two way street. Don't just come and dump a new thread and then return intermittently to regurgitate the exact same thing. It will not win you any friends, nor will it generate the conversation you so desperately, apparently crave. If this sounds harsh to you, then so be it, because people are frankly getting tired of trying to be friendly towards you when you obviously don't care how you treat them. Thank you.
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ron bond 007		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 339 06/22/09 1:09 AM	I'm sorry I'm just fascinated with the possibility that the Celestials created the Maw as a trangalactic or intergalactic subway to unknown areas of the galaxy ie.the Unknown Regions and Wild Space or to distant galaxies or neighoring galaxies like the Vong galaxy. It doesn't make sense that an ancient civiliaztion created a cluster of black holes for nothing. I think the only reason it was used to travel to new unknown areas of space perhaps millions or billions of light years away. DOESN'T THAT SOUND FASCIANTING OR WHAT??!! ISN'T ANYBODY FASCINATED WITH BLACK HOLES AND WORMHOLES AND THEIR USE FOR RAPID TRANSGALACTIC TRAVEL AND/OR INTERGALACTIC TRAVEL AND SEEING OUR HEROES THE BIG THREE AND BEN SKYWALKER AND CO. TRAVEL THROUGH THESE BLACK HOLES AND HAVING ADVENTURES AND DISCOVERING NEW ALLIES AND ENEMIES IN NEW UNCHARTED AREAS OF SPACE???!!!! Reemember I suggested that the GFFA and the Jedi should interact and travel to other galaxies and find other galactic governments and even an Intergalactic Republic? The Maw could create that opportunity! I wouldn't rule out the use of the Maw as a cosmic subway by Luke and Ben or Han and Leia in the Falcon or even Jaina and Jag Fel in future FOTJ books if not post-FOTJ novels and hopefully we will see the Celestials in FOTJ if not post-FOTJ. By the way somebody said at the FOTJ thread on TF.N literature forums that Sue Rostoni said there are vague plans for a Post-FOTJ trilogy. Will it be a trilogy of hardcovers like the Thrawn Trilogy or a paperback trilogy like Dark Nest? Here is a link to the page: [[http://boards.theforce.ne...e/b10003/28676882/p182]]
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max jaybo		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3120 06/22/09 1:30 AM	Bring me a link to her actually saying it and I'll beleive it. Swear to God, if you immediately follow this post with douchey buzzkillery, I will cut you.
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S1thari		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 26 06/22/09 2:12 AM	FOTJ #2 isn't even out yet. While I respect the fact that some people are interested in a pot-FOTJ series, we have no clue what will happen. It feels very premature.. btw, ronbond007 are you thrawn007 and benskywalker007, too?
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petersearing		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1572 06/22/09 2:13 AM	hes definatly benskywalker007 i dont known about trawn
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ron bond 007		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 340 06/22/09 3:06 AM	Yes
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S1thari		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 27 06/22/09 3:22 AM	Thought so.
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KarVastor		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 50 06/22/09 4:17 AM	DOESN'T THAT SOUND FASCIANTING OR WHAT??!! ISN'T ANYBODY FASCINATED WITH BLACK HOLES AND WORMHOLES AND THEIR USE FOR RAPID TRANSGALACTIC TRAVEL AND/OR INTERGALACTIC TRAVEL AND SEEING OUR HEROES THE BIG THREE AND BEN SKYWALKER AND CO. TRAVEL THROUGH THESE BLACK HOLES AND HAVING ADVENTURES AND DISCOVERING NEW ALLIES AND ENEMIES IN NEW UNCHARTED AREAS OF SPACE???!!!! And as a simple point of etiquette, entire sentences written in captial letters comes across as aggressive and pretty damn rude - to me it gives the impression that you dont give a damn about what other forumers have posted, you just want to scream your opinions without wishing to join any conversation/debate that your idea may have spawned. Please take the time to read and absorb other forumers comments - as a couple of people have said the idea is promising. From a personal point of view i don't really want to see wormholes etc in star wars it would radically alter star wars as it has been since it's creation and take us to a more star trek style of series - thats just my opinion. If the Maw is to be a big part of FOTJ I personally would like to see it as having been created as a kind of prison for something dark and dangerous from the earliest days of civilisation in the galaxy - something so powerful and monstrous it couldn't be killed but only contained.... although then Luke and Ben would probably end up killing it by the end of the series so perhaps not Last Edited By: KarVastor 06/22/09 9:07 AM. Edited 1 time.
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BobaKareu		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1777 06/22/09 8:38 AM	This is actually a pretty cool and original idea you've brought up, Ron. For what it's worth, though, I think that it's a little more likely that the Maw is actually the exit point. Sort of like an "all roads lead to here" place. If we do end up learning more about the Celestials in this series, and the authors plan to do this by having the Celestials somehow show up in person, suddenly popping out of a black hole would actually be pretty dang dramatic and unexpected. And with more immediate payoff and results, rather than if you have our characters stumble into one. Now, what do you think about that, Ron?
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Acky12		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13434 06/22/09 10:44 AM	I suppose we have to blame the new Star Trek for theories like this...
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ron bond 007		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 341 06/22/09 12:30 PM	I hope the Maw isn't destroyed in FOTJ and can be saved and used for Luke and co.(Post-FOTJ) to travel rapidly to new distant regions of space and find new homes for the Jedi Order or have new adventures and face new dangers. By having Luke and co. travel to distant galaxies or the Unknown Regions via the Maw black hole subway system would bring new life to the SW EU and never run out of new stories and enemies for our heroes. I don't think SW would become Star Trek by travelling the Maw wormholes. It would open up new possibilities. And I'm sorry If I was being agressive but I'm very passionate about SW,SW EU and the possibility of black holes/wormholes used for rapid interstellar/intergalactic travel. And I hope the Celestials will show up in FOTJ if not Post-FOTJ and become either the allies to the Galactic Alliance or enemies. Either way the possibilities are endless. Also I think Ben Skywalker should become the main hero of Post-FOTJ books and take over as Grand Jedi Master of the Jedi Order from Daddy Luke. And Jaina and Allana inherit the Falcon from Han Solo also in Post-FOTJ books and fly all over the galaxy and beyond with Ben in tow facing the new dangers in the UR,new galaxies etc. Last Edited By: ron bond 007 06/22/09 12:33 PM. Edited 1 time.
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