Iran and the problems it poses

RSS
Email

0 Kudo

Author	Comment
thebentwin	Iran and the problems it poses		Lead	[-]
Posts: 509 06/30/08 9:59 AM	Tags : None The other day on a political show i dont remember which but someone said that Israel wants to move on Iran because of their nuclear power, plus the shadow war they have been launching against us (sending fighters into Iraq harboring terrorists etc) the problem is that they dont want to wait for a new president to go in. But if George Busch sent our Army into Iran without congresses approval which he wouldnt get he would be vilified and impeached . Israel knows that Obauma doesnt support the war in Iraq now but they know Mcain does so it puts them in a dilemna. If they go in we wont be following them since america cant handle another war right now so it wont happen. So when Israel goes in other middle eastern countries will side with Iran and start world war three and the worlds greatest oil crisis ever. My question is do you think thats accurate "Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love." Ghandi
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Anonymous170694		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 731 06/30/08 10:45 AM	I think that Israel will not attack Iran, at least not without U.S support. It would stretch the credibility of Israel too far, to attack a clearly independent nation far from its borders. Already, Israel is in a tenous position regarding its Middle East neighbours, and to attack Iran would be political suicide, not to mention unprovoked. Suddenly Jacen could see his challenge, and the prospect terrified him. He would have to kill those he most loved. He would have to kill Tenel Ka and his precious daughter, his Allana. The fact that even the thought of it was tearing out his heart was the terrible proof that it had to be so. And still he could hardly bear think it. The Yuuzhan Vong thought they knew all there was to know about inflicting pain, but they were beginners compared to this. How could he even think it? Jacen put his right hand to his face and touched it, as if it weren't his own. He felt as if he were standing over by the far wall, watching himself die by degrees. Is it me? Is it really my burden? Yes, Grandfather. It's me. Jacen accepted the burden in its entirety, and his heart- irrelevant, fragile, expendable- broke. ______________________________________________________________________ "Something to remember the next time you decide to play the Hapan game of bloodletting and backstabbing." Jacen Solo to the "Esteemed Queen Mother of the Hapan Consortium"
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Iurus		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2966 06/30/08 5:40 PM	Israel won't do anything without US support. However, support comes in other ways than sending in troops. Selling them something more potent than an F-4 Phantom, for example, would give their Air Force a pretty tough boost. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
AladelAngel		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 165 07/01/08 11:25 AM	I would say an actual invasion is unlikely from either American troops or Israeli troops. The most likely form of attack would be an air strike, from either country. To my knowledge, the United States has aircraft in Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, and the UAE that could potentially do the job. Of course, Israel has done such things before in Iraq and most recently in Syria. I'm not sure how effective such an attack would be though, as I believe many of Iran's nuclear sites are either in unknown locations or deep underground. A more likely scenario would be an US air strike on Iranian Republican Guard facilities, as punishment for helping the insurgency in Iraq. Of course, Bush would take flak from such a move but he can claim that he was authorized by Congress to attack Iran when they passed a bill making the IRGC a "terrorist organization". Then again, if Bush were to do this, he wouldn't be the one that would suffer, it would most likely be McCain, as the last polls I saw were decidedly against an attack on Iran.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
thebentwin		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 511 07/01/08 4:35 PM	hey just saying this but israel has the worlds second strongest military "Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love." Ghandi
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Anonymous170694		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 789 07/01/08 6:55 PM	"hey just saying this but israel has the worlds second strongest military" I really doubt this statement. Suddenly Jacen could see his challenge, and the prospect terrified him. He would have to kill those he most loved. He would have to kill Tenel Ka and his precious daughter, his Allana. The fact that even the thought of it was tearing out his heart was the terrible proof that it had to be so. And still he could hardly bear think it. The Yuuzhan Vong thought they knew all there was to know about inflicting pain, but they were beginners compared to this. How could he even think it? Jacen put his right hand to his face and touched it, as if it weren't his own. He felt as if he were standing over by the far wall, watching himself die by degrees. Is it me? Is it really my burden? Yes, Grandfather. It's me. Jacen accepted the burden in its entirety, and his heart- irrelevant, fragile, expendable- broke. ______________________________________________________________________ "Something to remember the next time you decide to play the Hapan game of bloodletting and backstabbing." Jacen Solo to the "Esteemed Queen Mother of the Hapan Consortium"
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Iurus		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2980 07/01/08 7:06 PM	Considering that I believe Israel is one of the few nations that automatically conscripts every adult male, I would assume its Armed Forces are directly after those of the Communist nations (China, North Korea) and similar technologically. Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Iron Fist		#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1525 07/01/08 7:16 PM	It really depends on how the election goes. I think Bush will try and do something with Iran before he is out of office. I'm not sure it will be a military attack but I can't be sure. I definitely think Iran will be quiet though. If they make noise, they'll draw attention (and I'll explain why that's bad). If Obama becomes President and Iran is quiet, they'll get to be left alone becuase Obama is not strong on forceful foreign policy. His statements seem to be similar to Chamberlain's "appeasement" policies. If McCain wins, however, Iran will still want to be quiet to avoid drawing McCain's attention as he as a forceful foreign policy. I think the situation will definitely change depending on who becomes President. You know, its kind of sad that if I were to mention the discussions that go on here to somebody in the real world, they would call me crazy as well as obsessive and a complete geek/nerd/whatever. Then I come here and discover that I'm way out of my league. Especially when people recall details that I don't even remember....
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
AladelAngel		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 167 07/01/08 7:19 PM	His statements seem to be similar to Chamberlain's "appeasement" policies. I'm confused. Did Obama offer Czechoslovakia (if it still existed, that is) to Iran when I wasn't looking?
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Iron Fist		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1527 07/01/08 9:43 PM	Of course not and I didn't mean to imply that he has done so or would do something (exactly like that). But in many of his recent speeches, he has taken up similar negotiation policies, namely, no preconditions for meetings with hostile countries. He may have changed his opinion after that but I'm not completely sure. Regardless, I think it's fair to say that Obama's foreign policy would be much different than McCain's. You know, its kind of sad that if I were to mention the discussions that go on here to somebody in the real world, they would call me crazy as well as obsessive and a complete geek/nerd/whatever. Then I come here and discover that I'm way out of my league. Especially when people recall details that I don't even remember....
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Anonymous170694		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 794 07/01/08 10:14 PM	"Of course not and I didn't mean to imply that he has done so or would do something (exactly like that). But in many of his recent speeches, he has taken up similar negotiation policies, namely, no preconditions for meetings with hostile countries. He may have changed his opinion after that but I'm not completely sure." I don't see why there should be any preconditions. Any negotiations should go on during the meeting, not before. Iran is going to keep their nuclear power going, but thats it. They don't plan to do anything else, at least not in the current regime. Suddenly Jacen could see his challenge, and the prospect terrified him. He would have to kill those he most loved. He would have to kill Tenel Ka and his precious daughter, his Allana. The fact that even the thought of it was tearing out his heart was the terrible proof that it had to be so. And still he could hardly bear think it. The Yuuzhan Vong thought they knew all there was to know about inflicting pain, but they were beginners compared to this. How could he even think it? Jacen put his right hand to his face and touched it, as if it weren't his own. He felt as if he were standing over by the far wall, watching himself die by degrees. Is it me? Is it really my burden? Yes, Grandfather. It's me. Jacen accepted the burden in its entirety, and his heart- irrelevant, fragile, expendable- broke. ______________________________________________________________________ "Something to remember the next time you decide to play the Hapan game of bloodletting and backstabbing." Jacen Solo to the "Esteemed Queen Mother of the Hapan Consortium"
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
AladelAngel		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 170 07/01/08 10:52 PM	Regardless, I think it's fair to say that Obama's foreign policy would be much different than McCain's. I think that's definitely a fair statement. I just get nervous when people start equating negotiation with appeasement. I know Bush tried to a little while ago and he, rightfully in my opinion, got slapped around by the media for it. Appeasement implies that peace will be bought with something and I don't think offering to negotiate with an enemy matches up with that concept (if it does we need to include every American President from Truman to Reagan in the category with Chamberlain).
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Iron Fist		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1530 07/01/08 10:54 PM	I definitely didn't mean to imply a direct 1:1 comparison between the two. Being a conservative, I definitely seem more of it then I would like in Obama's policies but that's another debate for another day. No matter what happens, it's going to be an interesting year... You know, its kind of sad that if I were to mention the discussions that go on here to somebody in the real world, they would call me crazy as well as obsessive and a complete geek/nerd/whatever. Then I come here and discover that I'm way out of my league. Especially when people recall details that I don't even remember....
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
thebentwin		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 514 07/02/08 11:33 AM	remember guys we have been funneling israel guns since before some of us were born "Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love." Ghandi
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
revmacd		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1738 07/02/08 3:43 PM	Yeah but we have Santa smuggle them in so no one suspects Ben...shhhhhhh. "I think a chicken, a coffee mug, or something that resembles coleslaw would best represent me... ... another sentence in a long list of things I never dreamed of hearing myself say." -Homage to a clever man.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
thebentwin		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 526 07/02/08 8:57 PM	thanks rev your humor never fails "Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love." Ghandi
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
BobaKareu		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 500 07/03/08 1:16 AM	Well it's the world's worst kept secret that we've got covert operations going on inside Iran right now, working to destabilize the government. The nuclear reactor of Iran is something that Israel really fears, and the dry bombing run that their military engaged in a few weeks ago proves that they're pretty much ready to go. If they do decide to bomb the nuclear reactor, America (in the forms of both the President and our Congress) have made it clear that we are staunch supporters of Israel. We'd provide assistance to them, because it wouldn't matter if we did or did not. We'd still get blamed for it, if only for being such close allies with them. I honestly don't really think things will devolve this far, although it could make for an October surprise of the worst kind for everyone. (And 500 posts at NJOE! Finally! ) The Complete Star Wars EU Journey: http://www.bobakareu.blogspot.com/
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Anonymous170694		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 842 07/03/08 2:34 AM	Such an action would immediately give Obama victory. Period. Suddenly Jacen could see his challenge, and the prospect terrified him. He would have to kill those he most loved. He would have to kill Tenel Ka and his precious daughter, his Allana. The fact that even the thought of it was tearing out his heart was the terrible proof that it had to be so. And still he could hardly bear think it. The Yuuzhan Vong thought they knew all there was to know about inflicting pain, but they were beginners compared to this. How could he even think it? Jacen put his right hand to his face and touched it, as if it weren't his own. He felt as if he were standing over by the far wall, watching himself die by degrees. Is it me? Is it really my burden? Yes, Grandfather. It's me. Jacen accepted the burden in its entirety, and his heart- irrelevant, fragile, expendable- broke. ______________________________________________________________________ "Something to remember the next time you decide to play the Hapan game of bloodletting and backstabbing." Jacen Solo to the "Esteemed Queen Mother of the Hapan Consortium"
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
revmacd		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1747 07/03/08 8:26 AM	Such an action would immediately give Obama victory. Period. In fact the exact opposite is true. The one problem other than money that Obama seems to be having right now is that he is being portrayed as a Muslim sympathiser. There are dirty little lies about him actually being a closet Muslim trying to take over from within. If any military action with Iran happened right now it would only serve to fuel those rumors. So in fact the above statement is actually completely wrong, period. "I think a chicken, a coffee mug, or something that resembles coleslaw would best represent me... ... another sentence in a long list of things I never dreamed of hearing myself say." -Homage to a clever man.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
Anonymous170694		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 849 07/03/08 8:44 AM	I'd think that two American invasions into other countries within a Republican Presidents term would mean that Americans would vote Democrat. But of course, you know Americans a lot better than I do... Suddenly Jacen could see his challenge, and the prospect terrified him. He would have to kill those he most loved. He would have to kill Tenel Ka and his precious daughter, his Allana. The fact that even the thought of it was tearing out his heart was the terrible proof that it had to be so. And still he could hardly bear think it. The Yuuzhan Vong thought they knew all there was to know about inflicting pain, but they were beginners compared to this. How could he even think it? Jacen put his right hand to his face and touched it, as if it weren't his own. He felt as if he were standing over by the far wall, watching himself die by degrees. Is it me? Is it really my burden? Yes, Grandfather. It's me. Jacen accepted the burden in its entirety, and his heart- irrelevant, fragile, expendable- broke. ______________________________________________________________________ "Something to remember the next time you decide to play the Hapan game of bloodletting and backstabbing." Jacen Solo to the "Esteemed Queen Mother of the Hapan Consortium"
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote
revmacd		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1748 07/03/08 9:49 AM	I could see how it might look like that from the outside but we have more of a "cult of personality" thing going right now. Kind of an American Idol for politicians. Political parties are less a factor than the person themselves. Also, if the American people genuinely thought we were involved in military action in Iran for a just reason, we would all fly flags and and get misty when they sang the National Anthem before ball games. We do not oppose invading other countries as standard procedure. Just when there is no justification for it. When we joined with our allies and invaded German held territory at Normany in France during WWII Americans rejoiced. It was overwhelmingly supported. This is another reason I despise the Bush administration. The whole world now thinks the American people have no stomach what so ever. That we wouldn't dare fire a shot at anybody for any reason. We're still pretty nuts. The proverbial bull in the china shop. You say you would think that two invasions with a repub...ect... The fact is there have been two invasions. One in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. No one mentions Afghanistan because by and large we were all happy about that one. We don't mind invading another country at all. We just need the reasons to be real. If Iraq hadn't happened Iran would be acting right at the moment. "I think a chicken, a coffee mug, or something that resembles coleslaw would best represent me... ... another sentence in a long list of things I never dreamed of hearing myself say." -Homage to a clever man.
Interact My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Invite Blocking Report Post	Quote

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Yuku free message boards

Iran and the problems it poses

Iran and the problems it poses

Quick Reply