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Acky12		#381	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13462 06/27/09 2:35 PM	I <3 Kirr.
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MrNomAnor		#382	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9837 06/27/09 9:58 PM	From what I can gather, its not like the Lit VIPs are saying, "Countdown is heresy! We will never have the novels merge into this continuity because it blows." I got the impression that they have a buttload of stories that (whether we like them or not) they plan on telling and are invested in these stories and as they have pointed out, the novels themselves are all (mostly) unfolding at the moment in 2381, which gives them about 8 years in-universe to work towards Countdown. And they never said they WOULDN'T work towards the future laid in Countdown, just that they aren't going to go out of their way YET to work towards that because they literally don't have to. There's still plenty of time. And I won't comment on VOY yet because I am still waiting for my goddamn copy of goddamn Full Circle to get its goddamn ass into my possession.
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Rouge77		#383	[url]	[-]
Posts: 3305 06/29/09 9:54 AM	Star Trek Online's webpage has these yearly updates and other stuff - like Jake Sisko interviewing Worf a year after Countdown - starting from 2387. They are currently in 2389 and the game will happen in 2409. Now, will the novels accept the game and these historical updates as canonical and work towards them? Last Edited By: Rouge77 06/29/09 9:57 AM. Edited 2 times.
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Acky12		#384	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13465 06/29/09 11:06 AM	No one seems to know - what we can see is that the STO updates through the years that the books HAVE covered incorporated the events as depicted in the books. Whether the books incorporate the history of STO is yet to be seen;commented on.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#385	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2341 06/29/09 1:59 PM	And I agree with Nom, they certainly COULD do that from the lit site. They haven't said they -won't- mostly they just won't comment. I guess my problem is, I'm used to Star Wars - where the shared universe has to be consistent among ALL the product lines. The books don't get to ignor Shadows of the Empire. Now granted, sometimes they find little corners of the galaxy where they don't much need to worry about stepping all over each other - but we know there's a master plan. My problem with Trek is, there isn't really one driving vision. The lit folks are only in concert with each other because the editorial department decided to be - they could still be doing things they way they did decades ago and have every book more like an episode from each series - never really changing the status quo. So things could be worse (though I will say I miss the EVENT books from back then - books that felt like movies, Q-Squared, Probe, stuff like that), but I think things could still be better. What would be wrong with them telling us that yes they do consider the lit line a part of the same timeline as STO/Countdown? If the argument is 'then no one will read the books' - they've missed the point. As Acky mentioned as recently as the Blood Oath topic, the whole point is the journey. I'm more concerned with making sure this whole universe is all connected - I want to know the continuity is there. The fact that there are some vocal authors who don't want to see the return of Data just sort of adds fuel to my own fire. Editorially, they aren't the decision makers in that anyway - but it's the whole idea that Data stays dead, Trip doesn't, and Janeway should never be spoken of again that has me scratching my head. I'll also say that as a follow up to reading Countdown, I'm now listening to the novelization of Star Trek (the new movie) - and I think it's freaking brilliant. So I'm not completely burnt out on Trek (and as stated, really looking forward to The Romulan War and the Typhon Pact, especially if there's more Avertine), I'm just becoming a little less excited by this line recently. I am hopeful Shore Leave will produce some information that will help jump start my feelings - but in the grand scheme of things, I feel the most bad for any Voyager fan - from what's already been said about Full Circle, that relaunch continues to get the shaft. You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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MrNomAnor		#386	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9850 06/29/09 11:34 PM	^^ Oh, okay, I think that I thought you were saying something different to what you actually were Kirr. Thanks for the explanation for my slow-mo brain. And actually I agree with you so much I won't comment except on this: The fact that there are some vocal authors who don't want to see the return of Data just sort of adds fuel to my own fire. Editorially, they aren't the decision makers in that anyway - but it's the whole idea that Data stays dead, Trip doesn't, and Janeway should never be spoken of again that has me scratching my head. Well to use some Star Wars EU examples: Troy Denning believes/prefers/thinks that Jaina Solo should end up with Zekk as opposed to Jag. Karen Traviss thinks all Jedi everywhere in the history of the universe except for some of the ones she created herself are prime jerkfaces. Mike Stackpole and to a lesser extent, Greg Keyes, were really against the idea of killing Anakin Solo. So as we can see, and as you yourself point out, authors can have opinions and likes and dislikes, but if any of this is outright stupid/not workable for the characters or plot, or what the editorial team in the end decides is better for the story/characters, then it won't fly. Obviously, authors could argue why something may or may not be good for a story "Data should stay dead because otherwise it makes Nemesis* seem pointless and ridiculous" and this may indeed perhaps sway the overall storyline to their liking "AHA, so Data can stay dead because I was right!" but it could just as easily be the opposite, "No, I'm the editor and Data will be revived in the body of B4, so technically Nemesis stays poignant and nothing is lost from the emotion of that story, and we still get Data back, but things will be different." I do also find it had-scratch-worthy on how they seem REALLY adamant to keep Janeway dead when her death was one of the few that was really open to future possibilities. HELLO, she friggen walked off stage with LADY Q!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even if it was her spirit, she friggen WALKED OFF STAGE WITH A Q. I get that they can't resurrect every single dead character ever because then nobody would ever die and everyone would be invincible, but seriously, Janeway's death begs for further exploration. Are we to expect that Janeway will just sit for the rest of eternity in the Q Continuum? Methinks not. Janeway will get bored ultra-quickly and also pimp slap Q around some when he tries to flirt with Aunty Kathy. It just boggles the mind. Having said that, I am totally glad they reversed These Are The (Shitty) Voyages... and retconned every facet of that ugly-ass Valentine that was more like a Valentine's Day Massacre. Waru bless Michael Martin, Andy Mangels and Margaret Clarke. As I said though, I very much agree with your post, and I too appreciate the Star Wars effort to encapsulate everything they can. And I am also glad that whoever it was that made the same decision for Trek made it. (And I was getting really sick of the crossover novels that were totally stooopid. The only halfway decent one was probably Double Helix. Less said about Invasion the better)
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Acky12		#387	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13471 06/30/09 12:00 AM	On a slightly different subject, because I haven't seen anyone comment yet... speaking of the Aventine..
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MrNomAnor		#388	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9861 06/30/09 12:42 AM	Sweet. Isn't that off next year's SOTL calendar?
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Kirr Mistwelder		#389	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2346 06/30/09 8:29 AM	Thank you Acky - I've been waiting to see that. Avertine looks awesome - and I must admit, if this ship/crew gets it's own series, I will be following it. I think (like New Frontier once did) the idea of a mostly new crew appeals to me. Plus there's the DS9 connections, which I have long admitted was my favorite trek - since this seems the most likely way for me to get my DS9 fix in the 'current' timeframe (post-Nemesis) - since they seem adamant about keeping DS9 right in the year after post-DS9-finale. Nom, for the record, since I had no vested interest in Enterprise, it didn't matter to me that they brought back Trip - and in fact, I love his running plot through the relaunch (as I was always a fan of Section 31 - DS9!). It's more the randomness of who gets to live and die and what cannon they're willing to change and what they're not. I think you bring up some great points about B4. For one, it's very interesting to compare it to the Star Wars EU - it's like all the complainers who say that Dark Empire screws up Vader's sacrifice in RotJ. But I like the idea that even despite the actions taken since Nemesis (deactivating B4 I believe - and what the hell kind of solution was that?!?) Data's personality STILL winds up mapping onto B4's positronic brain. But what might be more interesting is if Data's NOT exactly the same either. Like a twin or a clone with the memories of his brother, but not exactly the same person. Those are things that would be interesting to explore. You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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Acky12		#390	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13475 06/30/09 10:29 AM	Yes, from next year's SOTL. I'm a little disappointed that there's no images of the JJ-1701. I think the reason Trip got in was because mostly EVERYONE just completely ignores the episode where his death was written. What else can you do when the people that wrote it blatantly ignored an entire season's worth of story telling and just pulled the episode out of the coffers from where it had been written a year prior? I haven't caught up on my Enterprise novels, so I don't know what the "official" skirt around the death was, but personally I just view it as Riker and Troi were viewing a piece of historical fiction - a flawed holoprogram that embelished on the past either by accident or by need to dramatize the story.
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MrNomAnor		#391	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9865 06/30/09 10:32 PM	Basically Trip's death was faked by Section 31, Archer, Reed and Phlox. History records him dying, which is what Riker and Troi watched, but... he didn't. Its all ratgher ingeniously plotted out and I remain utterly desolate that you Acky, yes you, have not yet read TGTMD or Kobayashi Maru. And this time I will not buy your Always Busy With Real Life excuse. And Kirr, yes, Acky's right about These Are the (Shitty) Voyages... Bermaga (Brannon and Braga) have more or less apologised for it. I shouldn't laugh but I do because apart from one or two inspired moments, the Enterprise FINAL EVER EPISODE was full of crappola. And I say that with ENT being my favourite Trek. If that is their idea of a Valentine, I sure am glad I will never be their girlfriend.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#392	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2408 07/10/09 3:26 PM	A little reminder, the Shore Leave convention is this weekend - so I expect there will be lots of new news on upcoming Trek books over the next couple of days. I know the Trekmovie site had a recent post with the final covers of some upcoming books (including the next Voyager book and the Romulan War Enterprise book). You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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Acky12		#393	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13518 07/10/09 11:53 PM	And had a blurb on the next Voyager novel that had me completely uninterested. Way too many names of important characters that I've never heard of before and never appeared on the series before.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#394	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2409 07/11/09 7:53 AM	Ok, first I'm just going to post the two stories from Trekmovie (the one both Acky and I previously mentioned and the new one with details on the 2010 schedule). I'll add my thoughts on a post afterwards. From: http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/01/exclusive-preview-of-fall-2009-star-trek-novels/ STAR TREK BOOKS FALL 2009 PREVIEW Below is the back of the book jacket copy from each book, along with the books covers (note some may not be final copy). All book covers below can be seen in high resolution by clicking on the images. All books are mass market paperbacks, unless otherwise noted. September 2009 STAR TREK: VOYAGER - UNWORTHY by Kirsten Beyer Freed with a thought, the greatest menace to humanity, the Borg are gone, absorbed into the Caeliar gestalt. But are they? Can this deadly menace, that has hovered over humanity for decades truly be gone? Might some shadow of the Caeliar remain? The Federation decides that they have to know and Starfleet is ordered to find out. The Starship Voyager leads a fleet into a region of space that has lived in fear of instant annihilation for generations, home of the Borg, the Delta quadrant. Afsarah Eden-the new captain of Voyager is charged getting answers, to reach out to possible allies, and resolve old enmities in the Delta quadrant The perfection that was given to the Borg was withheld from Seven of Nine. Left behind she is living a twilight existence-neither Borg nor human-and slowly going mad. The whispers of the Collective, comforting mummers she has always known, is replaced with a voice deep within her that keeps insisting she is Annika Hansen. Chakotay, the former captain of Voyager, offers to help Seven rendezvous with the ships that Starfleet Command has sent into the Delta quadrant, the probable destination of the mysterious Caeliar. These are not the friendly stars of the Federation, the unknown and the unexpected are the everyday. [pre-order "Unworthy" at Amazon] September 2009 STAR TREK: Enterprise - THE ROMULAN WAR: BENEATH THE RAPTOR'S WING by Michael A. Martin [trade paperback] At the start of the twenty-second century unconditional war swept across the Earth. A war that engulfed the great and the small, the rich and the poor, giving no quarter. Each side strove for unconditional victory, and as battle built upon battle the living began to envy the dead. Chastised by the cataclysm that they had unleashed, the governments of Earth banded together. Humanity vowed to put an end to war, and to strive for the betterment of every living creature. A united Earth created Starfleet, an interstellar agency, whose mission was to explore the cosmos, to come in peace for all mankind. A naïve wish, yet man persists in the belief that peace is the way. Banding together with other powers to form a Coalition of Planets, humanity hopes that the strength each can offer the other, will allow for peaceful exploration. The rise of the Coalition strikes dread within the Romulan Star Empire. They feel the growing reach will cut them off from is rightfully theirs. But, the Romulans know that the alliance is fragile, that the correct strategy could turn allies into foes. Perfecting a way of remotely controlling Coalition ships and using them as weapons against each other, the Romulans hope to driving a wedge of suspicion and mistrust between these new allies. One ship, one Starfleet captain uncovers this insidious plot, Jonathan Archer of the Enterprise. Determined not to lose what they have gained, out manned and out gunned, the captains of Starfleet stand tall vowing to defend every inch of Coalition space. The tide begins to turn. The Romulans now plan to strike at what they see as the heart of their problem. With nothing left to lose the Romulan Star Empire engages in all out war against humanity, determined once and for all to stop the human menace from spreading across the galaxy. [pre-order "Romulan War" from Amazon] October 2009 STAR TREK: TITAN - SYNTHESIS by James Swallow The Starship Titan continues on her outward voyage of discovery. Ranging farther and farther from Federation space, Captain William Riker and the crew look forward to living Starfleet's mission: seeking out new life, discovering new civilizations. Striking a "sandbank"-a spatial distortion-the Titan is knocked out of warp, her crew shaken up but uninjured. Titan has stumbled across a battlefield, and floating in it, shattered and in pieces, are the remains of a ship. Searching for survivors, they discover the ship never had a crew. The away team removes the computer core, looking for answers. Once the device is restored, it becomes clear this is not just a computer, but a thinking, reasoning artificial intelligence. It identifies itself as SecondGen White-Blue, it comes from a civilization composed entirely of sentient computers. Eons ago these artificial intelligences were charged to be the first line of defense against The Null-a destructive force so allconsuming that generation upon generation have waged unending war trying to find a way to beat back this terror. Captain Riker offers to assist them, but years of war have left the AIs distrustful and suspicious, especially of organics. The tide of the battle is turning, The Null is winning. Set free, it will destroy everything in this system and then, unchecked, spread its mindless destruction into the heart of the Federation. [pre-order "Synthesis" from Amazon] November 2009 STAR TREK: VANGUARD - PRECIPICE by David Mack Operation Vanguard is in chaos. On a post-apocalyptic world in the Taurus Reach, undercover Starfleet Intelligence agent Cervantes Quinn finds an ancient Shedai conduit. Unfortunately, the Klingons have found it first and sent an army to claim it. Light-years away on Vulcan, reporter Tim Pennington answers a cryptic call for help and ends up stalking interstellar criminals with an unlikely partner: T'Prynn, the woman who sabotaged his career and is now a fugitive from justice. Meanwhile, Diego Reyes, former commander of Starbase 47, lives as a prisoner aboard a Klingon starship. But his former enemies aren't seeking revenge. In fact, the only man who knows why Reyes is still alive is the one who arranged his kidnapping and faked his death-the enigmatic Councilor Gorkon. All their fates, as well as the futures of three great powers, are linked by one thing: the mysterious Mirdonyae Artifact. And unless Doctor. Carol Marcus and Ming Xiong can unlock its secrets in time, it might destroy them all. [pre-order "Precipice" at Amazon] December 2009 STAR TREK: MIRROR UNIVERSE - SORROWS OF EMPIRE by David Mack One man can shape the future…but at what cost? "In every revolution, there is one man with a vision." Captain James T. Kirk of the United Federation of Planets spoke those prophetic words to Commander Spock of the Terran Empire, hoping to inspire change. He could not have imagined the impact his counsel would have. Armed with a secret weapon of terrifying power and a vision of the alternate universe's noble Federation, Spock seizes control of the Terran Empire and commits it to the greatest gamble in its history: democratic reform. Rivals within the empire try to stop him; enemies outside unite to destroy it. Only a few people suspect the shocking truth: Spock is knowingly arranging his empire's downfall. But why? Have the burdens of imperial rule driven him mad? Or is this the coldly logical scheme of a man who realizes that freedom must always be paid for in blood? Spock alone knows that the fall of the empire will be the catalyst for a political chain reaction-one that will alter the fate of his universe forever. [pre-order "Sorrows of Empire" from Amazon] DS9 SUMMER + 2010 PREVIEW COMING NEXT TrekMovie has much more book coverage planned for July. Next weekend is the annual Shore Leave convention in Maryland. As they do every year, Pocket Books will hold a panel announcing their upcoming book schedule and TrekMovie will present the same preview online to coincide with the Pocket Books panel. Pocket also has two Deep Space Nine books planned for July and August [see previous story for preview]. TrekMovie will have the first review in a couple weeks, preceded by a 'DS9 releaunch primer' to get you ready. From here: http://trekmovie.com/2009/07/10/exclusive-pocket-books-announces-2010-star-trek-books/ STAR TREK 2010 BOOKS PREVIEW TrekMovie was briefed this week by Pocket Books Star Trek editor Margaret Clark, who previewed her Friday night Star Trek presentation from the Shore Leave convention (being held this weekend in Baltimore). Clark has planned out the year in three phases, each with a theme. [Note that the dates below are all the official Pocket Books release months, but often the 'street dates' for the books put them into the previous month. All books are mass market paperbacks, unless otherwise noted.] SPRING BACK TO CLASSIC TREK (& NEW FRONTIER) Pocket books starts off 2010 with four 'classic' Trek books at various points in the Original series era from Pike's time up through to the last feature film. Each book is a 'stand alone' which Pocket Book Star Trek editor Margaret Clark describes as "old fashioned classic Trek books." Although the books are not tied together, Clark says there is a theme of "young Starfleet officers starting their careers." There a also new Peter David New Frontier novel, as well as a reprint. January "Sorrows of Empire" by David Mack Mirror Universe story set during the TOS era and an expansion of Mack's short story from the "Glass Empires" anthology [see previous story for more details and the cover]. February "Inception" by S.D. Perry Set before The Original Series, the book is story of four people at the start of their careers. Commander Kirk and the woman he loves Dr. Carol Marcus, Commander Spock and his chance encounter with an botanist, Leila Kalomi. March "Treason" by Peter David (mass market reprint) Reprint of April 2009 New Frontier trade paperback. April "The Children of Kings" by Dave Stern Set on Christopher Pike's Enterprise (including Spock and Number One), the book focuses on the Orion Syndicate, a dying girl and the kidnapping of a Starfleet officer. This is Dave Stern's first TOS novel (if you don't count his 1994 Captain Sulu audio adventure "Transformations"). Stern has written four Enterprise novels, and is a big classic Trek fan and former Star Trek editor for Pocket Books. May "Unspoken Truth" by Margaret Wander Bonanno Set after Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, the book focuses on Saavik wondering where does she belong, dealing with her half Vulcan/half Romulan nature. Can Vulcan and Starfleet be the wrong answer? June (possibly July) Untitled New Frontier by Peter David [trade paperback] Book to continue the "New Frontier" series, set after "Treason," but will likely still be set before the events of the "Destiny" trilogy from David Mack (which shook up the 24th century and Starfleet). THE SUMMER OF JJ TREK "You can't see a new Star Trek movie this summer, but you can read the books," is Clark's tagline for Pocket's plans for Summer 2010. Last week we reported that Alan Dean Foster was going to be writing a sequel novel to JJ Abrams' Star Trek movie, but that is just the beginning. That novel will be followed by three more, also set after the events of the Star Trek movie. According to Clark, each of the novels will stand alone, so you don't need to read them all, or in any specific order. The authors are allowed to "play with anything they want, as long as when they are done they put everything back in the box the way they found it," says Clark. The focus for each book will be moving the story on with a new mission, and not going back to the movie and trying to fill in blanks or 'fix' anything. The novels are being done independently from the script (from Orci, Kurtzman & Lindelof) for Star Trek sequel film, currently in development. June "Refugees" by Alan Dean Foster No details, except that the 'refugees' are not the Vulcans. July "Seek a Newer World" by Christopher Bennett Enterprise on a "world-building" mission, but again not the Vulcans. August "More Beautiful than Death" by David Mack Finally, this one will deal with the Vulcans remaining after the destruction of their home planet. September Untitled 4th New Star Trek Movie era book The fourth book is not yet under contract, so no details are available, but it will possibly be a Scotty story. FALL INTO THE 24TH CENTURY AND THE TYPHON PACT In the Fall…the bill comes due. In the "Destiny" series (and books that followed), the Federation president struck a Faustian bargain to assemble a fleet to take on the Borg invasion, and that give rise to The Typhon Pact, which is a 'Warsaw Pact' coalition of bad guys (Romulans, Tholians, Gorn, Breen, Tzenkethi, & Kinshaya). In the Fall Pocket Books will do four books, all set in 2382, with four captains (including bringing Deep Space Nine in line with the rest of the 24th century books), all telling the story of how Starfleet deals with rise and threat of the Typhon Pact. Each book will focus on one captain and one or two aliens in the Pact. According to Clark, the books in this series are tied together and follow each other, however they are not as interwoven as the "Destiny" trilogy and so readers could read just one or two and still feel like they aren't missing something. October "Seize the Fire" (TITAN) by Michael Martin Captain Riker and the USS Titan face the Gorn who are looking to step up and secure their position with in the Typhon Pact. November "Zero Sum Game" (AVENTINE) by David Mack Aventine under the command of Captain Dax is assigned to aid with the insertion and extraction of Starfleet operatives behind Breen lines December "The Rough Beasts of Empire" (DS9) by David R. George III The Deep Space Nine series jumps forward to 2382. The book is a tale of intrigue and machinations with DS9 characters dealing with the Romulans, who are a divided people looking to cement their rightful position as the leader of the Typhon Pact, by any means necessary. The book will also deal with the Tzenkethi. January 2011 "Path of Disharmony" (TNG) by Dayton Ward Picard's Enterprise is assigned to the least glamorous mission, babysitting a conference on Andor, but it is here that the Typhon Pact will show their strength by daring to reach into the heart of the Federation to raise their standard as the pre-eminent power. This book will also focus on the Tholians. ANTHOLOGIES In addition to all the above novels, Pocket has planned two additional trade paperback anthologies. A previously announced omnibus of "Corps of Engineer" series of e-books has been delayed (again). Spring 2010 "Seven Deadly Sins" Series of short stories using one of Star Trek aliens (or universe) to represent each of the 'seven deadly sins': The Romulans (Pride) by Dayton Ward & Kevin Dilmore The Cardassians (Envy) by James Swallow The Klingons (Anger) by Keith R.A. Decandido The Pakleds (Sloth) by Greg Cox The Ferengi (Greed) by David Mcintee The Borg (Gluttony) by Marc Giller Mirror Universe (Lust) by Britta Dennison Summer 2010? (date not finalized) "Myriad Universes: Shattered Light" Three 'what if?' stories, from David R. George, Steve Mollmann & Michael Schuster, and Scott Pearson. Similar to the two "Myriad Universes" anthologies put out in 2008. 2011? "Out of the Cocoon" Collection of four 'COE' e-books (57, 58, 59, & 60) by Robert T. Jeschonek, Kevin Killiany, William Leisner, and Phaedra M. Weldon. WHAT ISN'T ON THE LIST There is a lot planned through 2010, but there are also a few things that are not on the list. According to Clark, future books from the Vanguard, Voyager and Enterprise series are all on the potential list for 2011 (including the follow-up to this October's "Romulan War" novel). Clark says that they tried to fit Voyager into the Typhon Pact mini-series, but it didn't mesh with where Voyager series is headed (which will next be seen in the October VOY novel "Unworthy"). As for the the future of the 'Shatnerverse,' Clark had no answer on if there will ever be a follow-up to William Shatner's 2007 novel "Collision Course." For the world of non-fiction, there are currently no books planned for 2010. Clark says Pocket is "always looking at stuff like that" and they are "interested" in doing non-fiction Trek books, but those types of books (especially reference books) require more time and resources than novels. Clark says Pocket will do future Star Trek non-fiction "if it is the right fit" but they have nothing to announce right now. Clark did not have any details on the "Haynes Manual to the Enterprise" which was announced earlier this year, but that book is not being developed directly by Pocket. Finally, with regards to future Star Trek audio books, apparently the audio version of the recent Star Trek movie adaptation did well and there is interest from Simon & Schuster Audio for more Star Trek audio, but as of now nothing has been planned. You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#395	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2410 07/11/09 8:09 AM	In all, I'm continuing my feelings of -meh-. Ok, I'm going to back up and start by agreeing with Acky - I couldn't possibly be less interested in Voyager based on the description of Unworthy. The mission sounds like it might be interesting - had they bothered to actually use the Voyager characters instead of just the ship. There are two books I'm most excited for (in a two year span) - Enterprise's The Romulan War and the Aventine book by David Mack. I thought I would be more excited for the Typhon Pact - but they've set it up to be less of a interconnected story and more of a ongoing background story that gets played out over several books/series. In some ways thats good - I don't really want to read Titan, and I don't have to. I haven't yet felt the need to pick up William Lenser's TNG book - so we'll see if I'm interested enough to pick up his and the new one next year (ONE TNG novel next year - ONE). I do like that DS9 is coming forward to the same point in time, though I already felt like Aventine was the place for that - so mixed feelings there. I'd guess the Typhon DS9 book will be a pretty good place to re-start (I haven't picked up the last two DS9 relaunch books, and I won't be picking up the two due out this year) what with the jump forward in time - I'm just not sure if I really want to. I thought Unity ended DS9 so well, I've been disappointed with everything afterwards. So that leaves Aventine from this series - which I'm very excited about (not the least of which because it's also being written by Mack). Enterprise gets nothing in 2010!?! Let me get this straight, we're going to start the Romulan War, but not give us any indication when we'll continue with it. Really disappointing. 4 books in the new Star Trek universe. Good news for Zinnos. I'm only excited for two books in that series - the Foster one and the Mack one - but even then, I don't feel like I'm dying for these novels. Maybe I'll feel different when the time comes - also more description might help. I'm not interested in anything for spring 2010 - and so there we are. Trek and Wars have flip-flopped in one year's time. This time last year, I thought Trek was completely on the right track (Destiny and the follow ups, Kobayashi and Romulan Wars) and we had no information from Del Rey on the Star Wars plans - now, Star Wars is running on all cylinders, and I feel like the Trek people are a little out of touch (no Voyager or Enterprise). You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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Acky12		#396	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13521 07/11/09 5:23 PM	I'm not interested in anything for spring 2010 - and so there we are. And in comment off of this, why in the world are they doing segmented parts of the year like this? Are they trying to alienate their audience so that some people are going to buy Trek novels only in the first four months, or the last four months? Doesn't it make so much more sense to spread it out to try and encourage people to look at their other books, too? I think I'm done with Trek literature.
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MrNomAnor		#397	[url]	[-]
Posts: 10006 07/11/09 11:04 PM	I think I'm going to wildly disagree with you guys; I'm tentatively looking forward to VOY, and indeed, even Unworthy. I don't care if there are new people on VOY; and I am sure (well, almost sure) that the VOY regulars are going to work their ways in there somehow. But of course, I have yet to read FC, so all this may blow up in my face. Already knew all that about Romulan War (thought I posted that here; guess not), but am crying like a little baby that we apparently have no ENT in 2010 (though they could work something in later. Looking forward to some of the Typon Pact titles: Titan GORN OMG GIMME NOW, and I also look forward to TNG's next title: THOLIANS OMG ANDORIANS OMG and I assume BIRTH OF BABY PICRUSHER OMG OMG But yeah, I'm pretty much non-plussed at everything else. It's a wait and see game on the JJ Trek titles, I guess I'd have to know a little more of what they deal with before I look into them. Not really caring about all these Mirror Universe/alternate universe stuff. Maybe if they jettisoned some of that aimless crap, we could get, oh I don't know MORE THAN ONE ENTERPRISE NOVEL EVERY TWO YEARS and MORE THAN ONE VOY NOVEL EVERY YEAR. And so on. Am intrigued to see what Aventine has to offer. Wow. I guess I'm not ready to leave Trek Lit like Ack apparently is, I mean there is some stuff I am salivating at the bit to get my hands on, but I do feel they're trying to diversify TOO MUCH and so we only get like one novel per series (eg ONE TNG novel, ONE ENT novel) and because its so stunted you more or less lose interest because you've forgotten what happened because there's only one novel per year per series. And I fail to see why we're devoting SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT in things like Mirror Universe and Myriad Universe and anthlogies (they seem to do completely the opposite of Star Wars by giving us TOO MANY ANTHOLOGIES) and even in the Christopher Pike-era Enterprise. Not to rag on all these things - I am sure people enjoy them - but it always seems like the same series get the royal middle finger all the time: VOY, ENT and now, it seems, TNG. Have we really gotten to the point of only ONE Ent, ONE VOY and ONE TNG every year? As I said, I'm still slavering over certain titles, but OVERALL, I do think the decisions they are making are ones I do not agree with.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#398	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2411 07/13/09 10:41 AM	Already knew all that about Romulan War (thought I posted that here; guess not), but am crying like a little baby that we apparently have no ENT in 2010 (though they could work something in later. Oh, you're right - you posted it here first, I only re-posted the entire 2009 preview from trekmoive because I thought that was the first time we've seen the final cover of the Enterprise novel. But I've been anxious for that book since it was first announced (last year at Shore Leave maybe) - I'm just pointing out that in the next 18 months, of the two novels I'm most excited about (and most likely to buy) one of them is one I already knew about. I think you make a fantastically good about about the anthologies, way too much time spent on them recently - and very few of interest to me. We've got the mirror universe in the anthologies (and one short story now expanded into a full book!) and the mirror universe in the DS9 relaunch - I like an occasional Mirror universe story, but it's overkill. So, I'm not overly excited by the Trek lineup - but who knows, by the time the majority of the books I'm actually interested in are coming out (not until next summer for the nuTrek and fall 2010 for Typhon Pact) maybe I'll be excited enough to want to try a bunch of those things. Until then, it's only Enterprise for the rest of this year. You are greater than the Jedi of former days. Because unlike the Knights of old, Jedi Luke Skywalker... You are not afraid of the dark.
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MrNomAnor		#399	[url]	[-]
Posts: 10303 08/11/09 1:13 AM	No, I'm not reporting any Trek Lit news and no, I still haven't received my copy of Full Circle (the bookstore is waiting on one final book in my order so they can send them all to me at once - and this was a month and a half ago DAMNIT!), but I was looking over the TrekBBS thread on Losing the Peace (goddamn I can't order this book until my current order arrives DAMNIT!) and William Leisner bowled me over with his awesome sense of humour I didn't know he had, in some random discussion on LTP: Insurrection was about a Starfleet plot to displace the native population of an unaligned planet so that the Federation could move in and get firmer boobs, or something like that. I did a double take and read it again to make sure my mind totally didn't make that up.
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Posts: 13634 08/27/09 10:08 PM	Just when I thought Trek Lit had it all figured out... A round of layoffs this week at Simon and Schuster resulted in the departure of Star Trek books editor Margaret Clark. The move was a part of a workforce reduction by the publisher, driven by lagging profits in the publishing industry. Even though this is the second layoff of a Star Trek editor in the last year, Simon & Schuster says they are committed to Star Trek going forward. More details below, plus a preview of Spring 2010 Trek books. Margaret Clark's departure is the the second major impact on Star Trek publishing in the past year. Last December, an even more substantial downsizing at S&S cost editor Marco Palmieri his position. Clark joined Simon & Schuster's Pocket Books in 1996 after editing Star Trek comics at DC. Most recently she has helmed the Enterprise re-launch, as well as the post-Nemesis books in the Next Generation series. With Palmieri's departure, Clark took over virtually all aspects of the Star Trek operation for Pocket, save for the New Frontier series. However, even though Clark was overseeing Star Trek, Pocket Books remains committed to the line, including all of the recently announced titles for 2010. Jean Anne Rose, Pocket's director of publicity, told TrekMovie: Pocket will be going forward as planned with its current schedule and the editorial responsibilities will be announced shortly. Star Trek was handled by Pocket's New Media Group, which also handles licenses for several tie-in's, including World of Warcraft, Diablo, and Starcraft, as well as some Marvel tiles and CBS Television's CSI. Clark was one of four editors from that group and the only one to be laid off, so potentially one or a combination of the other editors will be taking over the Trek responsibilities.
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