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Caedus didn't intend to keep them, unlike Sidious.

But Caedus bombed Kashyyyk for betraying and lying about it to the GA.

True, but when the government commits an act of treason, the government is supposed to represent the people.

Yes, Caedus knew that Kashyyyk would be unwilling to hand over the Jedi, but by refusing to admit that Jedi were on Kashyyyk, the Wookiies ruled out any possiblities of a negotiation. "Ok, we'll hand over the Jedi who aren't here in exchange for..."

Yes. Thats what the British did in WWII. Thats what the Americans did then too.

"Germany had declared war on England & the United States. Kashyyk did not declare war on the GA.

If you're going to debate, at least use a valid analogy. The sneak attack on Pearl Harbor would have been more appropriate."

Very well. It is slightly out, because Kashyyyk cannot declare war on the GA. Kashyyyk is a member of the GA, which has betrayed the GA. I'd say its effectively a declaration of war. But my analogy was based on Iron's question:

"And are you then saying that it is acceptable for a entity to bomb another planet's population for the government's actions?"

Regardless whether its treason or war, it is still the governments actions.

"Anon, you've been telling us the whole time in the Science v. God thread that the people of a country should not be blamed for the acts of their governments yet here you are saying that you accept Caedus' bombing of the Kashyyyk population. How do you reconcile these views?"

It is true that I don't feel that the people should be blamed, i.e there should be no punitive measures imposed on the people after a war. But killing them during war, even though they can't be blamed, may be necessary, and is permissible. In a war, the enemy should really not be forced to take the welfare of civilians on the other side into account when they launch an attack.

"In fact, Caedus took away the freedom of choice [of the Wookies] when he bombed Kashyyyk for their indecision. In fact, Caedus' bombing of Kashyyyk shows his disregard for other's freedom."

The major question is whether secession should or should not be allowed. If Cal Omas' view that secession is illegal is upheld, then the Wookiees had no choice about leaving the GA. But even if secession is allowed, they can't stay in the GA without following its rules, and since it hadn't left the GA, and wasn't following its rules, then it was acting illegally. And if it was acting illegally, then Caedus had every right to do what he did.

Not much is stated of his political actions after Sacrifice. And I'm willing to say that Caedus overstepped the boundaries of democracy, but I doubt he really took many actions politically besides providing his troops with better weapons. He did not have supreme control over his forces until Niathal betrayed him, and we don't see any civilians giving him "advice and criticism". You're assuming a lot.

First, Kashyyyk is not innocent. Secondly, the peace treaty was done behind his back, when he should have been involved in it. Also, the person who agreed to the peace treaty had been backstabbing him for the entire previous book, killing GA men in the process. Tebut was definitely one of Caedus' worst actions, and I'd agree that killing her was evil. But like I said, one can understand how upset he is. He's like Luke in Sacrifice, wounded tremendously, and furious.