Has the Solo line been extinguished?

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Acky12	Has the Solo line been extinguished?		Lead	[-]
Posts: 12313 08/13/08 10:01 AM I’m responsible for all this...	I'm not up on all the inner workings of Han's family, but with Thrackan offed (and him being a Sal-Solo anyway) and now that Anakin and Jacen are dead... is the Solo line gone from the galaxy? [sorry this post is anemic... and sorry that I don't know how to spell aenemic, but I'm at work and bored and random thoughts are running through my head]
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x wingurly		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1981 08/13/08 10:05 AM	Acky, misery loves company. I am at work and bored and therefore will answer this as I see it although I cannot promise it will be a long in depth post. I believe this depends on how you look at it. If you mean that the name solo will be gone, then yes as, if we go by how SW trditionally has been, and that the women do take on the last name of the man they marry. So no matter who jaina or eventually allana marry, they will not have the last name solo unless they have it added on before their new last name. If we are talking about the bloodline, then I count it as alive and kicking through jaina and her offspring as well as allana's (hopefully) children.
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Rouge77		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2198 08/13/08 10:12 AM	Solo family is dead in the male line, and I think it's dead also in any other meaningful way by Legacy, as even if the Fels are descendants of Jaina, there is no indication that they themselves any way feel themselves to be members of the Solo family and certainly act totally against what the Solos stood for (except Jacen during his final months...) The Legacy Fels are just Fels. They are not Solos nor are they Antilleses. When it comes to Han's larger family, distant male relatives, I can't think of anyone. Who knows, perhaps there is some third of fourth cousin of Han's who continues the family name, but I'm pretty sure we haven't been introduced to such a character even in any obscure sources. That said, I'm hoping for a resurrection. Whether true clones or Jacen surprising us with his activities during his five years sojourn, it should be possible. As long as there's DNA left somewhere, there's hope. Last Edited By: Rouge77 08/13/08 10:14 AM. Edited 1 time.
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Zinnos	Solo	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11877 08/13/08 10:51 AM	I know Legacy writers wanted to let DR have room to do what they wished to the Solos, but I think that by not including at least one Solo in Legacy, it screwed it up. I mean, we know who the Solos are- very good people who feel the need to save the galaxy every two seconds. The fact that they have not appeared in Legacy, in my eyes, is uncharacteristic. One solution to this is that there actually is a Solo in Legacy, but under a different name- and then what would SW be without the Solo name? Now I'm tired so I'm rambling, but those are just some of my thoughts. Daala Count- 20 and counting and Hapans Rule All! **************************************** "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." -Padme Amidala ************************************************************* "You'll send a skiff?" Caedus fumed. "Tenel Ka, you can't believe I'm going to surrender- to you or anyone else." "I am hoping you will," Tenel Ka's voice was sad but firm. "because it is going to break my heart to open fire on you." *************************** "Surrender is betrayal."- Qorl
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Rouge77		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2200 08/13/08 11:02 AM	I agree that a Solo in Legacy would have either saved Jacen in LotF or given him another kid. A simple answer to your question, Zinnos, is that Star Wars without the Solo name is Legacy. It hasn't even been mentioned once as far as I recall. It's not an answer that I am myself satisfied with, though. I think I have asked this before, but as Legacy was planned before DN and LotF, they might have had a Solo in their plans before they knew that NJO wasn't the chronological end for the novels, and that the character would have been changed to someone else when they learned about DN and LotF. In a way this is the same thing as what Zinnos wrote, except in this case the character wouldn't just be hiding under a different name, but would have been given a new, "real" background. So, if there would be a hidden Solo in Legacy, who would it be? Or, which character might have been intended to be a Solo before LotF? There's a relatively small number of characters we could be talking of, in my opinion. There's of course peripheral Human characters, but in reality I can think of just two important characters that might be "hidden" Solos or intended previously to be Solos: Morrigan Corde alias Nyna Calixte and Antares Draco. I did think of Azlyn Rae, but she probably dies quickly... Draco's name has bothered me from the beginning, it sounds like an alias or something that they came up with quickly, as it stands out too much in my opinion, so on these very weak grounds I'm going with him as a Solo that was changed, and Morrigan as a hidden Solo. Last Edited By: Rouge77 08/13/08 11:06 AM. Edited 2 times.
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Zinnos	Solo	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11883 08/13/08 11:06 AM	There's a relatively small number of characters we could be talking of, in my opinion. There's of course peripheral Human characters, but in reality I can think of just two important characters that might be "hidden" Solos or intended previously to be Solos: Morrigan Corde alias Nyna Calixte and Antares Draco. I did think of Azlyn Rae, but she probably dies quickly... Draco's name has bothered me from the beginning, it sounds like an alias or something that they came up with quickly, as it stands out too much in my opinion, so on these very weak grounds I'm going with him as a Solo that was changed, and Morrigan as a hidden Solo. If Morrigan was a Solo....then her shacking up with a Skywalker is sort of creepy. Daala Count- 20 and counting and Hapans Rule All! **************************************** "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." -Padme Amidala ************************************************************* "You'll send a skiff?" Caedus fumed. "Tenel Ka, you can't believe I'm going to surrender- to you or anyone else." "I am hoping you will," Tenel Ka's voice was sad but firm. "because it is going to break my heart to open fire on you." *************************** "Surrender is betrayal."- Qorl
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Rouge77		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2201 08/13/08 11:08 AM	Not really, there would be so many generations between them. Let's say that Morrigan is Allana's granddaughter and that Kol was Ben's grandson. They would have then been fourth cousins.
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Zinnos	Family	#7	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11884 08/13/08 11:09 AM	Which is still family. I, personally, don't deal in first or fourth of whatever cousins, and just call people family even if it is barely. So it might not be creepy in the eyes of many, but it is for me. However, knowing Morrigan's deceptiveness, I guess it wouldn't be entirely not possible. Daala Count- 20 and counting and Hapans Rule All! **************************************** "So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." -Padme Amidala ************************************************************* "You'll send a skiff?" Caedus fumed. "Tenel Ka, you can't believe I'm going to surrender- to you or anyone else." "I am hoping you will," Tenel Ka's voice was sad but firm. "because it is going to break my heart to open fire on you." *************************** "Surrender is betrayal."- Qorl
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x wingurly		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1983 08/13/08 11:17 AM	well, creepy family love is a skywalker tradition but I doubt corde is a skywalker as well. She has been set up just fine on her own and I am pretty sure john and jan wouldn't pull that card.
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Rouge77		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2202 08/13/08 11:22 AM	Perhaps not, but revealing her to be a Solo descendant would be the easiest way of bringing something of the Solos to Legacy after revealing that the Fels have few drops of Solo blood in their blue veins.
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Kirr Mistwelder		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1422 08/13/08 1:43 PM	Solo family is dead in the male line, and I think it's dead also in any other meaningful way by Legacy, as even if the Fels are descendants of Jaina, there is no indication that they themselves any way feel themselves to be members of the Solo family and certainly act totally against what the Solos stood for (except Jacen during his final months...) The Legacy Fels are just Fels. They are not Solos nor are they Antilleses. I'm always surprised by this view. Now I'll admit, my exposure to the Legacy Fels is only in volumes 1-3 of the TPBs, but from that limited exposure, I'd say that Marasiah (at the least) shows MANY of the traits of a Solo or Antilles. Roan is sometimes ruthless (but then, so is Han sometimes - I actually see Han in Roan more when he is acting like this) and Roan's cousin's honor also seems to indicate the Antilles blood. And I don't buy for a second the whole 'a Solo would never be part of an empire' - hello, PRINCESS Leia. While you (and I don't mean you Rogue - that's a general 'you') may not like the term Empire or Emporer (and I'm sure Leia wouldn't have liked those terms either) - it's still a 'royalty', something we've got ample exposure to in the Star Wars universe. Heck, in some ways, the Fel Empire may be 'better' than most other royal families - it seems there may still be some form of democracy around his role as Emporer. Now, it might be interesting if some OTHER/NEW character were introduced who maybe wants to leave their Fel (or D'jo) name behind and decide to take up the last name 'Solo' again. But, of what I've seen so far, I don't think anyone already introduced in the comic fits this bill.
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x wingurly		#11	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1984 08/13/08 2:24 PM	And let's not forget about padme. Although it was an elected position, it still smacked of monarchy and tenel ka is also queen. basically the sole ruler of 60 planets. Yeah she has help but she is the final authority and people are not saying she is power hungary, corrupt, etc. Well, most people anyway she was a reluctant leader but she did what duty demanded. Could be the same for jag as well as jaina.
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latara the ewok		#12	[url]	[-]
Posts: 23 08/13/08 2:54 PM	Zinnos wrote: I mean, we know who the Solos are- very good people who feel the need to save the galaxy every two seconds. laughs Maybe Jaina's kiddlins decided they didn't want to go into the hero business. "But Mooom, I don't want to go save the galaxy!" "I know Lesson One. Don't grab the glowy end." -- Jagged Fel, Fury Like fanfiction? Try Ambiguously Canon--stories that, in theory, could have happened.
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Rouge77		#13	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2204 08/13/08 3:00 PM	Authoritarian leaders always claim that they took power reluctantly and that they only do what duty demands... And somehow duty always tends to demand things like destruction of opposition, murders, massacres, wars of conquest and opulent palaces. I did thought that I would see something of the Solos in Fels when Legacy began, but I can't. Perhaps DR can continue the degradation of the Solos and in FotJ we will get to see a family resemblance to the Legacy Fels. Who, in my opinion, are simply nasty. The father who is a ruthless dictator, the young heir who tries to appear as more benevolent, but whose facade cracks occasionally and we end up seeing how close to the father the offspring is. I would compare the Fels to several similar ruling families on Earth, but probably better to leave it here.
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latara the ewok		#14	[url]	[-]
Posts: 24 08/13/08 3:02 PM	But seriously--one of the problems that I didn't like the prequels was because there was no Han Solo character to doubt or make wisecracks about every step in the plan. But Star Wars wasn't supposed to be about Han Solo--it was originally titled the Adventures of Luke Starkiller/Skywalker. Technically, it's Luke's Legacy, not that of the Solos. Which is unfortunate, but what are you gonna do? "I know Lesson One. Don't grab the glowy end." -- Jagged Fel, Fury Like fanfiction? Try Ambiguously Canon--stories that, in theory, could have happened.
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Rouge77		#15	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2205 08/13/08 3:02 PM	latara the ewok wrote: Zinnos wrote: I mean, we know who the Solos are- very good people who feel the need to save the galaxy every two seconds. laughs Maybe Jaina's kiddlins decided they didn't want to go into the hero business. "But Mooom, I don't want to go save the galaxy!" "Mom, I want to rule the galaxy like uncle Jacen did!"
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Rouge77		#16	[url]	[-]
Posts: 2206 08/13/08 3:03 PM	latara the ewok wrote: But seriously--one of the problems that I didn't like the prequels was because there was no Han Solo character to doubt or make wisecracks about every step in the plan. But Star Wars wasn't supposed to be about Han Solo--it was originally titled the Adventures of Luke Starkiller/Skywalker. Technically, it's Luke's Legacy, not that of the Solos. Which is unfortunate, but what are you gonna do? Complain. A lot.
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latara the ewok		#17	[url]	[-]
Posts: 25 08/13/08 3:05 PM	Rouge77 wrote: latara the ewok wrote: Zinnos wrote: I mean, we know who the Solos are- very good people who feel the need to save the galaxy every two seconds. laughs Maybe Jaina's kiddlins decided they didn't want to go into the hero business. "But Mooom, I don't want to go save the galaxy!" "Mom, I want to rule the galaxy like uncle Jacen did!" Oh, dear. "I know Lesson One. Don't grab the glowy end." -- Jagged Fel, Fury Like fanfiction? Try Ambiguously Canon--stories that, in theory, could have happened.
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latara the ewok		#18	[url]	[-]
Posts: 26 08/13/08 3:06 PM	I suspect a lot of the fangirls and fanboys will do a fair amount of complaining. So, has anyone ever explored how many of these concentric boxes of quotes one could get up to? "I know Lesson One. Don't grab the glowy end." -- Jagged Fel, Fury Like fanfiction? Try Ambiguously Canon--stories that, in theory, could have happened.
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Uliah		#19	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4031 08/13/08 3:36 PM	Well, Jacen did have that secret five year journey. A Solo son could pop up as a result of that. I know Zinnos isn't going to like that idea, but five years is along time to not see Tenel Ka. Even the old Jedi weren't required to be chaste, just detached. I'm surprised more jedi offspring didn't exist in the Old Republic as a result of that rule.
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browwiw		#20	[url]	[-]
Posts: 73 08/13/08 3:41 PM	Don't discount all of Han's pre-Leia illegitimate love babies. I still have my fingers crossed for one of them hooking up with a Fett-clone descendant, just for the sheer irony.
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